Friday, December 29, 2006

List: Poets Who Wrote Mysteries

1. Jacques Roubaud - "Our Beautiful Heroine"
2. Gertrude Stein - "Blood on the Dining Room Floor"
3. Kenneth Fearing - "The Big Clock"
4. A.A.Milne - "The Red House Mystery"
5. Jack Spicer - "The Tower of Babel"

Special Mention:
Cecil Day Lewis

19 Comments:

Blogger * said...

when can I expect a post in coherent prose, not a list and longer than ten lines?

3:43 PM  
Blogger * said...

oh I know, Cheshire Cat who wrote mysteries

3:44 PM  
Blogger Cheshire Cat said...

Cheshire Cats are lazy. They do nothing better than grin and disappear.

However, if there's someone who's really interested in a reasonable-size coherent post from me, they might just be in for a surprise...

4:21 PM  
Blogger * said...

so the post will just appear and disappear like the cat? And the grin is the last thing that dissappears?

4:46 PM  
Blogger Cheshire Cat said...

I'm confident that Blogger will manage the appearances and disappearances on its own, without any interference from me. As for the grin, I keep it on in tribute to a certain Russian novelist...

9:03 PM  
Blogger Udge said...

"a certain Russian novelist"

Nabokov?

Came here via your comment on Antonia's blog. Yes, it is somewhat strange that a literaturist like yourself should be studying mathematics :-)

2:37 PM  
Blogger Cheshire Cat said...

No, Grin actually, A.S.Grin :)
I remember reading about him in an encyclopedia more than a decade back, and I have a high tolerance for escapist fantasy, but haven't managed to find anything by him yet.

As for the math, well, talking about that would be a way to ensure I have no readers at all :)

11:42 PM  
Blogger * said...

escapist fantasy. ha!

laughing and disappearing

5:58 AM  
Blogger * said...

by the way I did not know Grin...

6:03 AM  
Blogger * said...

admitting failure :)

6:03 AM  
Blogger Udge said...

Oh, you might be surprised how many visitors you'd acquire / keep. Antonia rabbits on about philosophy in great detail, we put up with it gracefully ;-)

I'll start you off: is the odd fact that prime numbers are all either 6N+1 or 6N-1 necessarily true or just an immense coincidence (meaning: are there or could there be primes that don't fit the pattern?)

3:16 PM  
Blogger Cheshire Cat said...

Udge, thanks, that's encouraging :) As for your specific question, yes, that's necessarily true. Numbers of the form 6N or 6N + 2 or 6N + 4 are even, numbers of the form 6N + 3 are divisible by 3. So prime numbers are left with very little choice - they need to be either 6N + 1 or 6N + 5(which is the same as being 6(N + 1) - 1). I must say, though, that they manage to be rather creative in the patterns they form despite these constraints...

I think your definition of math is a good one - we seek to distinguish immense coincidences from what is necessarily true. It can be extremely hard, even for quite simple questions... For instance, consider the following. Pick any number N. If N is even, divide by 2, else multiply by 3 and add 1. Now repeat this process with the new number, and the next, and the next... Do we always eventually get to 1, irrespective of which number N we start with?

Nobody knows.

5:04 PM  
Blogger * said...

haha udge...each of us has its own geekiness
After my mathsteacher told me he does not let me fail when I promise not to study maths one of the first classes in philosophy I did was on Frege's Foundation's of Arithmetics which was very interesting and gave me real headache. It was about reducing mathematical axioms to logical truth and he was pondering a lot about what is a number and I learnt a lot from it,not about the mathematical stuff obviously, but rather about clarity of thinking, stringency and diligence....and it was interesting, to think of what is the esssence of a numer, what it really entails...
but everything that's more difficult than percentage calculation is beyond me....
at least, what we share is the necessary truth....

5:48 PM  
Blogger Cheshire Cat said...

I love Frege. And Cantor too - guys who thought through to the foundation of things, crossing the boundary between philosophy and mathematics... Philosophy, logic, mathematics - it's a continuum.

6:07 PM  
Blogger tangled said...

The comments are slightly more interesting than the post.
:D

8:25 AM  
Blogger tangled said...

Perhaps more than slightly.

8:25 AM  
Blogger Udge said...

The pattern of the 6N+-1 being prime or not is indeed very interesting. I wrote a program once to start at N=1 and test whether the results were prime or not. I let it run up to about 14,000 and came to the conclusion that there was either no pattern, or that it was on a staggeringly large magnitude of digits (like searching for repeats in the expansion of Pi).

1:28 PM  
Blogger Cheshire Cat said...

If you'd found a pattern, it would have been astonishing. Mathematics often use the heuristic that beyond the constraints primes must necessarily satisfy, such as being 6N +/- 1, they are distributed more or less randomly.

8:48 PM  
Blogger Udge said...

My intuition about your "simple question" is that it will always land at one, because I am quite certain that the N*3+1 will necessarily at some point land on a power of two. (I do understand the difference between looking at examples and finding theoretical proof :-) hence my question about the immense coincidences; on the other hand examples can be pretty useful. I shall write a little programm to test this in my coffee break tomorrow morning.)

2:00 PM  

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